{"id":65830,"date":"2022-12-30T10:57:09","date_gmt":"2022-12-30T10:57:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/?p=65830"},"modified":"2022-12-30T10:59:27","modified_gmt":"2022-12-30T10:59:27","slug":"the-times-publikon-dokumentet-sekrete-per-putin-dhurata-qe-i-beri-tony-blair","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/the-times-publikon-dokumentet-sekrete-per-putin-dhurata-qe-i-beri-tony-blair\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018The Times\u2019 publikon dokumentet sekrete p\u00ebr Putin: &#8211; Dhurata q\u00eb i b\u00ebri Tony Blair"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"65831\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/the-times-publikon-dokumentet-sekrete-per-putin-dhurata-qe-i-beri-tony-blair\/methode_times_prod_web_bin_b028edfe-878c-11ed-8ebd-06f6e5e80272-770x433-1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/methode_times_prod_web_bin_b028edfe-878c-11ed-8ebd-06f6e5e80272-770x433-1.jpg?fit=770%2C433&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"770,433\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"methode_times_prod_web_bin_b028edfe-878c-11ed-8ebd-06f6e5e80272-770&#215;433-1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/methode_times_prod_web_bin_b028edfe-878c-11ed-8ebd-06f6e5e80272-770x433-1.jpg?fit=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/methode_times_prod_web_bin_b028edfe-878c-11ed-8ebd-06f6e5e80272-770x433-1.jpg?fit=770%2C433&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-65831\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/methode_times_prod_web_bin_b028edfe-878c-11ed-8ebd-06f6e5e80272-770x433-1.jpg?resize=529%2C298&#038;ssl=1\" width=\"529\" height=\"298\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/methode_times_prod_web_bin_b028edfe-878c-11ed-8ebd-06f6e5e80272-770x433-1.jpg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/methode_times_prod_web_bin_b028edfe-878c-11ed-8ebd-06f6e5e80272-770x433-1.jpg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/methode_times_prod_web_bin_b028edfe-878c-11ed-8ebd-06f6e5e80272-770x433-1.jpg?resize=450%2C253&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/methode_times_prod_web_bin_b028edfe-878c-11ed-8ebd-06f6e5e80272-770x433-1.jpg?resize=600%2C337&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/methode_times_prod_web_bin_b028edfe-878c-11ed-8ebd-06f6e5e80272-770x433-1.jpg?resize=400%2C225&amp;ssl=1 400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/methode_times_prod_web_bin_b028edfe-878c-11ed-8ebd-06f6e5e80272-770x433-1.jpg?w=770&amp;ssl=1 770w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 529px) 100vw, 529px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>30 Dhjetor 2022<\/p>\n<p>Tony Blair i dha presidentit rus Putin mansheta t\u00eb argjendta p\u00ebr dit\u00eblindjen e tij 20 vjet m\u00eb par\u00eb dhe argumentoi se atij duhet t\u2019i jepet nj\u00eb vend n\u00eb \u201ctavolin\u00ebn e lart\u00eb\u201d nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtare, pavar\u00ebsisht nga dyshimet e m\u00ebdha p\u00ebr liderin e ri rus. Dhurata n\u00eb fjal\u00eb zbulohet n\u00eb dokumentet konfidenciale t\u00eb publikuara nga Arkivi Komb\u00ebtar n\u00eb Kew, t\u00eb cilat nxjerrin n\u00eb pah gjithashtu se si kryeministri italian Silvio Berlusconi donte t\u00eb d\u00ebrgonte Putinin p\u00ebr t\u00eb zgjidhur kriz\u00ebn midis Indis\u00eb dhe Pakistanit, e cila k\u00ebrc\u00ebnoi t\u00eb shnd\u00ebrrohej n\u00eb luft\u00eb. Nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb q\u00eb sugjerimi i tij q\u00eb lider\u00ebt e tjer\u00eb t\u00eb NATO-s duhet t\u2019i bashkohen Putinit u hodh posht\u00eb si nj\u00eb \u201cide e tmerrshme\u201d nga Condoleezza Rice, sekretarja amerikane e shtetit.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetimes.co.uk\/article\/tony-blair-wanted-to-welcome-vladimir-putin-with-birthday-cufflinks-6q7j85w7f\">Dhurata\u00a0<\/a>e Blair u b\u00eb gjat\u00eb nj\u00eb turneu n\u00eb Rusi, Indi dhe Pakistan n\u00eb dit\u00ebt p\u00ebrpara pushtimit t\u00eb Afganistanit t\u00eb udh\u00ebhequr nga SHBA n\u00eb tetor 2001. Nj\u00eb ndihm\u00ebs tha se Putin ishte lideri i par\u00eb q\u00eb do t\u00eb kishte manshetat e para t\u00eb Downing Street.<\/p>\n<p>Dosjet zbulojn\u00eb gjithashtu p\u00ebrpjekjet e Blair-it p\u00ebr t\u00eb t\u00ebrhequr Xhorxh W Bush-in nd\u00ebrsa ai mori presidenc\u00ebn. Pas nj\u00eb bisede telefonike midis Blair dhe presidentit t\u00eb zgjedhur n\u00eb dhjetor 2000, n\u00eb t\u00eb cil\u00ebn Bush tha se donte t\u00eb punonte sa m\u00eb ngusht\u00eb me \u201cvendin tuaj t\u00eb mrekulluesh\u00ebm\u201d, Michael Tatham, sekretari privat num\u00ebr 10, shkroi:<span>\u00a0<\/span><em>\u201cKryeministri pyeti her\u00ebt n\u00ebse ai mund ta quante presidentin e zgjedhur me emrin e tij t\u00eb par\u00eb: Bush pranoi ngroht\u00ebsisht (por ngeci t\u2019i drejtohej kryeministrit si \u2018zot\u00ebri\u2019)\u201d.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Sugjerimi i Berlusconit p\u00ebr t\u00eb p\u00ebrdorur Putinin si paqeb\u00ebr\u00ebs u b\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb drek\u00eb p\u00ebr lider\u00ebt bot\u00ebror\u00eb n\u00eb K\u00ebshillin Nato-Rusi n\u00eb maj 2002, kur trupat po grumbulloheshin n\u00eb t\u00eb dy an\u00ebt e kufirit Indi-Pakistan nd\u00ebrsa tensionet u rrit\u00ebn mbi rajonin e diskutuesh\u00ebm t\u00eb Kashmirit. Sipas David Manning, k\u00ebshilltar p\u00ebr politik\u00ebn e jashtme t\u00eb Blerit, Berluskoni shtoi se lider\u00ebt e NATO-s mund t\u2019i bashkoheshin Putinit n\u00eb nj\u00eb konferenc\u00eb t\u00eb siguris\u00eb n\u00eb Kazakistan. Manning tha:<span>\u00a0<\/span><em>\u201cCondi Rice m\u00eb komentoi se kjo ishte \u2018nj\u00eb ide e tmerrshme\u2019 q\u00eb vet\u00ebm mund t\u00eb nd\u00ebrlikonte p\u00ebrpjekjet tona p\u00ebr t\u00eb trajtuar kriz\u00ebn.\u201d<\/em><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/ads.balkanweb.com\/www\/delivery\/lg.php?bannerid=0&amp;campaignid=0&amp;zoneid=629&amp;loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.balkanweb.com%2Fthe-times-publikon-dokumentet-sekrete-per-putinin-tony-blair-i-dhuroi-mansheta-te-argjendta-per-ditelindje-berlusconi-e-caktoi-si-paqeberes%2F&amp;referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.balkanweb.com%2F&amp;cb=5ba8fb215f\" width=\"0\" height=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Kur Bler u takua me z\u00ebvend\u00ebspresidentin e Bushit, Dick Cheney n\u00eb Camp David, nj\u00eb sh\u00ebnim i takimit thoshte se kryeministri britanik e p\u00ebrshkroi Putinin si nj\u00eb \u201cpatriot rus\u201d duke th\u00ebn\u00eb se \u201cishte m\u00eb mir\u00eb t\u2019i lejohej Putinit nj\u00eb pozicion n\u00eb tryez\u00ebn e lart\u00eb dhe t\u00eb inkurajohej q\u00eb t\u00eb synonte per\u00ebndimin, q\u00ebndrimet si dhe modeli ekonomik per\u00ebndimor\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Megjithat\u00eb, nj\u00eb sh\u00ebnim informues nr. 10 nga janari 2001, vet\u00ebm nj\u00eb vit pasi Putini mori pushtetin, theksoi shqet\u00ebsimet e zyrtar\u00ebve.<span>\u00a0<\/span><em>\u201cMegjith\u00eb ngroht\u00ebsin\u00eb e retorik\u00ebs s\u00eb Putinit p\u00ebr lidhjet e ngushta midis Rusis\u00eb dhe Britanis\u00eb s\u00eb Madhe, p\u00ebrpjekja e inteligjenc\u00ebs ruse kund\u00ebr objektivave britanike mbetet n\u00eb nj\u00eb nivel t\u00eb lart\u00eb\u201d,<\/em><span>\u00a0<\/span>thuhet n\u00eb deklarat\u00eb. Dokumenti listonte gjithashtu garancit\u00eb q\u00eb Putini i dha Blair-it, t\u00eb cilat rezultuan t\u00eb rreme, t\u00eb tilla si ajo q\u00eb Moska do t\u00eb ndalonte furnizimin me programin b\u00ebrthamor t\u00eb Iranit. Putin i tha Blerit se nuk donte t\u00eb shihej si anti-NATO, por ministri rus i mbrojtjes Igor Sergeyev u tha homolog\u00ebve t\u00eb tij t\u00eb NATO-s se zgjerimi i m\u00ebtejsh\u00ebm do t\u00eb ishte nj\u00eb gabim i madh politik, si p\u00ebrgjigje ndaj t\u00eb cilit Moska do t\u00eb \u201cnd\u00ebrmerrte hapat e duhur\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><i>Gazeta Dita<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>30 Dhjetor 2022 Tony Blair i dha presidentit rus Putin mansheta t\u00eb argjendta p\u00ebr dit\u00eblindjen e tij 20 vjet m\u00eb par\u00eb dhe argumentoi se atij duhet t\u2019i jepet nj\u00eb vend n\u00eb \u201ctavolin\u00ebn e lart\u00eb\u201d nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtare, pavar\u00ebsisht nga dyshimet e m\u00ebdha p\u00ebr liderin e ri rus. Dhurata n\u00eb fjal\u00eb zbulohet n\u00eb dokumentet konfidenciale t\u00eb publikuara nga [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":65831,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[27,2,35],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-65830","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blogu-i-udhetarit","category-politika","category-shoqerore"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/methode_times_prod_web_bin_b028edfe-878c-11ed-8ebd-06f6e5e80272-770x433-1.jpg?fit=770%2C433&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5Z6wp-h7M","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":100155,"url":"https:\/\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/kullat-e-boshta-dhe-xhepat-e-zbrazet-pied-a-terre-ne-tirane\/","url_meta":{"origin":65830,"position":0},"title":"Kullat e boshta dhe xhepat e zbraz\u00ebt: &#8211; Pied-\u00e0-terre n\u00eb Tiran\u00eb","author":"Kurt Farka","date":"May 12, 2026","format":false,"excerpt":"12 Maji 2026 Nga: Adrian Thano Ekuilibri \u00ebsht\u00eb zgjidhja. 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