{"id":4303,"date":"2018-03-04T14:46:56","date_gmt":"2018-03-04T14:46:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/?p=4303"},"modified":"2018-03-04T14:47:10","modified_gmt":"2018-03-04T14:47:10","slug":"greqia-e-maqedonia-zihen-per-emrin-dhe-aleksandrin-e-madh-por-cthone-autoret-e-lashte-per-te","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/greqia-e-maqedonia-zihen-per-emrin-dhe-aleksandrin-e-madh-por-cthone-autoret-e-lashte-per-te\/","title":{"rendered":"Greqia e \u201cMaqedonia\u201d zihen p\u00ebr emrin dhe Aleksandrin e Madh, por \u00e7\u2019thon\u00eb autoret e lasht\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb? –"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Nga: MARIN MEMA. –<\/p>\n

T\u00eb shkruash p\u00ebr Aleksandrin e Madh nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e leht\u00eb, por as e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb. Nga nj\u00ebri krah historia e tij \u00ebsht\u00eb e turbullt, duke ngjallur edhe sot jo pak p\u00ebrplasje duke v\u00ebn\u00eb p\u00ebrball\u00eb dy vende si\u00e7 jan\u00eb Greqia dhe shteti i vet\u00ebpag\u00ebzuar me emrin Maqedoni. T\u00eb dyja shtetet jan\u00eb p\u00ebrfshir\u00eb prej koh\u00ebsh n\u00eb nj\u00eb p\u00ebrballje historiko \u2013 politike, teksa t\u00eb vetmit q\u00eb rrijn\u00eb m\u00ebnjan\u00eb jan\u00eb shqiptar\u00ebt. A thua v\u00ebrtet\u00eb ky debat nuk na p\u00ebrket? P\u00ebr shumic\u00ebn e gjitha kjo \u00e7\u00ebshtje nuk ka lidhje me ne, por faktet tregojn\u00eb nj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr realitet.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Sigurisht k\u00ebtu po flasim p\u00ebr t\u00eb dh\u00ebna shkencore dhe aspak alternative, fantastike apo folklorike. Faktet mbeten fakte dhe ato duhen sjell\u00eb si nj\u00eb detyrim ndaj historis\u00eb dhe t\u00eb v\u00ebrtetave t\u00eb saj. Q\u00eb ky prij\u00ebs i madh identifikohej si Aleksandri i Maqedonis\u00eb kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb e ditur, por p\u00ebrtej k\u00ebsaj, autor\u00eb t\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb lasht\u00ebsis\u00eb kan\u00eb l\u00ebn\u00eb pas detaje q\u00eb ndihmojn\u00eb n\u00eb zbardhjen e nj\u00eb historie gjithmon\u00eb pak t\u00eb treguar e aq m\u00eb pak t\u00eb shpluhurosur n\u00eb lidhje me rr\u00ebnj\u00ebt e tij. Si\u00e7 p\u00ebrmendet n\u00eb shum\u00eb vepra asnj\u00ebher\u00eb t\u00eb kund\u00ebrshtuara nga pal\u00ebt, Filipi i Dyt\u00eb kishte n\u00ebn\u00eb Euridik\u00ebn, e cila vinte nga fisi ilir i Lynkest\u00ebve. Q\u00eb Lynkest\u00ebt jan\u00eb fis ilir kjo d\u00ebshmohet nga historian\u00eb e gjeograf\u00eb t\u00eb pafund\u00ebm. Thuajse t\u00eb gjith\u00eb e kan\u00eb theksuar k\u00ebt\u00eb fakt n\u00eb veprat apo shkrimet e tyre t\u00eb ndryshme si\u00e7 jan\u00eb historian\u00ebt e lasht\u00ebsis\u00eb Tit Livi e Straboni. Nuk duhet l\u00ebn\u00eb m\u00ebnjan\u00eb edhe autori tjet\u00ebr Plini, q\u00eb rendit me detaje shum\u00eb prej k\u00ebtyre fakteve n\u00eb librin e kat\u00ebrt t\u00eb koleksionit t\u00eb gjat\u00eb prej 37 veprash n\u00ebn emrin \u201cNaturalis Historia\u201d, \u201cHistoria e natyr\u00ebs\u201d. Po ashtu, edhe gjeografi Klaud Ptolemeu, q\u00eb jetoi n\u00eb Aleksandri, i rendit logjikisht Lynkest\u00ebt n\u00eb librin e tij \u201cGeographia\u201d, \u201cGjeografia\u201d, mes fiseve ilire. \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 Aq e qart\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb historia ilire e k\u00ebtij fisi, sa autoritetet e FYROM u detyruan t\u00eb nd\u00ebrhyjn\u00eb n\u00eb emrin e nj\u00eb prej siteve m\u00eb t\u00eb njohura t\u00eb lashta q\u00eb ndodhen n\u00eb af\u00ebrsi t\u00eb Manastirit. Dikur kjo qend\u00ebr q\u00eb sot vizitohet nga shum\u00eb turist\u00eb njihej si Heraclea Lynkestis, por pak vite m\u00eb par\u00eb ky em\u00ebr i dyt\u00eb ju hoq, si m\u00ebnyre p\u00ebr t\u00eb fshehur identitetin Ilir t\u00eb saj.<\/p>\n

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Pra, Filipi i Dyt\u00eb, babain e kishte maqedonas dhe n\u00ebn\u00ebn ilire. Ai u martua me Olimpin\u00eb, e cila ishte bij\u00eb e Neoptolemit, mbretit t\u00eb fisit ilir t\u00eb Molos\u00ebve t\u00eb Epirit dhe e nj\u00eb n\u00ebne po ashtu ilire. Sa i takon tez\u00ebs greke, ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb qart\u00ebsuar nga Demosteni. Oratori i njohur grek e ka cil\u00ebsuar n\u00eb veprat e tij Filipin si nj\u00eb murtaj\u00eb t\u00eb ndyr\u00eb t\u00eb Maqedonis\u00eb e q\u00eb nuk ka asnj\u00eb lidhje me grek\u00ebt. A thua t\u00eb gjith\u00eb k\u00ebta autor\u00eb t\u00eb jen\u00eb ndikuar nga di\u00e7ka tjet\u00ebr e t\u00eb ken\u00eb manipuluar historin\u00eb? Sigurisht q\u00eb jo. E v\u00ebrteta e tyre, bu\u00e7et edhe sot n\u00eb zbardhjen e jet\u00ebs s\u00eb nj\u00eb prej figurave m\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00ebdha t\u00eb historis\u00eb bot\u00ebrore. Pavar\u00ebsisht se autoritetet tona flen\u00eb, ato t\u00eb lasht\u00ebsis\u00eb mesaduket nuk kan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn gj\u00eb. Pra, p\u00ebrmes t\u00eb dh\u00ebnave q\u00eb vijn\u00eb nga k\u00ebta autor\u00eb kuptohet se Aleksandri kishte tre gjysh\u00ebr ilir\u00eb dhe vet\u00ebm nj\u00eb maqedonas. Sigurisht flasim p\u00ebr maqedonasit e lasht\u00eb dhe jo t\u00eb sotmit. Straboni, historian grek i lasht\u00ebsis\u00eb, ngulmon se maqedonasit dhe ilir\u00ebt flisnin gjuh\u00eb t\u00eb ngjashme, kuptoheshin e kishin zakone t\u00eb p\u00ebrbashk\u00ebta. \u00a0 \u00a0 Tarm, O. Hoffman, A. Jard, Geigand, O. Muller, P. Jougeut, H. Hirt, Edit Durham\u2026 etj. shprehin pik\u00ebpamjet e tyre se etnia dhe gjuha e maqedonasve t\u00eb lasht\u00eb kan\u00eb qen\u00eb ilire dhe ilirishtja. Sigurisht, nuk mund t\u00eb ket\u00eb qen\u00eb sllave sa koh\u00eb ajo ka ardhur shekuj m\u00eb von\u00eb. Nj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr element q\u00eb lidhet me identitetin ilir t\u00eb Aleksandrit vjen nga Curt Rufi.<\/p>\n

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Monedha Shqiptare Kushtua Aleksandri te Madh-1926 e ne vazhdim.<\/em><\/p>\n

N\u00eb vepr\u00ebn e tij \u201cAleksandri i Madh\u201d, e p\u00ebrb\u00ebr\u00eb nga plot 10 libra, historiani romak shkruan: \u201cPastaj, duke pasur frik\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb \u00ebm\u00ebn dhe p\u00ebr vete, Aleksandri vajti te mbreti i Iliris\u00eb dhe e la t\u00eb \u00ebm\u00ebn n\u00eb Epir, ku ishte mbret v\u00ebllai i saj\u201d. Nga kjo kuptohet se familja e n\u00ebn\u00ebs s\u00eb Aleksandrit ka pasur pushtetin p\u00ebr disa gjenerata n\u00eb fisin e Molos\u00ebve dhe se vet\u00eb prij\u00ebsi i madh ishte nip n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb dinasti ilire. Shkrimtari grek, Pausania, shkruan k\u00ebshtu n\u00eb nj\u00eb nga veprat e tij: \u201cN\u00eb Athin\u00eb gjendet portreti i Pirros. Ky nuk i ngjante fare Aleksandrit me t\u00eb cilin ishte fis. N\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb, Pirro ishte biri i Aiakidit, t\u00eb birit t\u00eb Arryb\u00ebs, dhe Aleksandri ishte djali i Olimpis\u00eb, s\u00eb bij\u00ebs s\u00eb Naoptolemit\u201d. Pra, p\u00ebr ta thjesht\u00ebzuar, Aleksandri i Madh dhe Pirro i Epirit vinin nga i nj\u00ebjti fis, si\u00e7 pohohet edhe nga Pausania. N\u00eb p\u00ebrfundim, n\u00ebse Aleksandri nuk ishte grek, si\u00e7 pohon Demosteni, por edhe shum\u00eb autor\u00eb t\u00eb tjer\u00eb, kishte tre gjysh\u00ebr ilir\u00eb e nga krahu tjet\u00ebr vet\u00eb ilir\u00ebt kuptoheshin nga ana gjuh\u00ebsore me maqedonasit, \u00e7far\u00eb ishte Aleksandri? Sigurisht, n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb shkrim nuk soll\u00ebm edhe t\u00eb dh\u00ebna t\u00eb tjera q\u00eb vijn\u00eb p\u00ebrmes nj\u00eb analize t\u00eb detajuar gjuh\u00ebsore, si p.sh. prejardhja e emrit Olimbi, Aleksand\u00ebr apo Meriamun, si\u00e7 shkruhet n\u00eb nj\u00eb mbishkrim t\u00eb gjetur n\u00eb Egjipt. Fakt \u00ebsht\u00eb se Aleksandri qartazi ka rr\u00ebnj\u00eb ilire, ashtu si\u00e7 maqedonasit e lasht\u00eb jan\u00eb nj\u00eb deg\u00ebzim i tyre.<\/p>\n

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E k\u00ebt\u00eb nuk e themi ne, por faktet. Gjithkush mund t\u00eb hulumtoj\u00eb e t\u00eb nxjerr\u00eb s\u00ebrish k\u00ebto pohime nga autor\u00ebt antik\u00eb.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Nga: MARIN MEMA. – T\u00eb shkruash p\u00ebr Aleksandrin e Madh nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e leht\u00eb, por as e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb. Nga nj\u00ebri krah historia e tij \u00ebsht\u00eb e turbullt, duke ngjallur edhe sot jo pak p\u00ebrplasje duke v\u00ebn\u00eb p\u00ebrball\u00eb dy vende si\u00e7 jan\u00eb Greqia dhe shteti i vet\u00ebpag\u00ebzuar me emrin Maqedoni. T\u00eb dyja shtetet jan\u00eb p\u00ebrfshir\u00eb prej […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":4304,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[85],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4303","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-histori"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/buyuk-iskender-facebook-cover-listelist.jpg?fit=620%2C400&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5Z6wp-17p","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":101483,"url":"https:\/\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/rama-sulmon-protestuesit-hajvane-fryme-fashiste-po-demtojne-turizmin\/","url_meta":{"origin":4303,"position":0},"title":"Rama sulmon protestuesit: -Hajvan\u00eb, frym\u00eb fashiste! 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