{"id":13360,"date":"2018-11-04T15:25:00","date_gmt":"2018-11-04T15:25:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/?p=13360"},"modified":"2018-11-04T15:25:00","modified_gmt":"2018-11-04T15:25:00","slug":"vepra-e-1800-es-biseda-e-skenderbeut-me-perandorin-romak-karli-i-madh","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/vepra-e-1800-es-biseda-e-skenderbeut-me-perandorin-romak-karli-i-madh\/","title":{"rendered":"VEPRA E 1800-\u00ebs\/ Biseda e Sk\u00ebnderbeut me perandorin romak Karli i Madh.-"},"content":{"rendered":"

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VEPRA E 1800-\u00ebs\/ Biseda e Sk\u00ebnderbeut me perandorin romak Karli i Madh.-<\/strong><\/p>\n

Nga: Fatmira Nikolli. \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013<\/strong> Kuvendime n\u00eb mbret\u00ebrin\u00eb e t\u00eb vdekurve: bashk\u00ebbisedim midis Gjergj Kastriotit, mbret i Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb dhe i Epirit, dhe Karlit t\u00eb madh, perandor romak\u201d. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb e vepra e shkruar nga abati Lorenzo Ignacio Thjulen n\u00eb vitin 1816 dhe ribotuar n\u00eb vitin 1832. Ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebrkthyer nga Gemaj Kraja dhe vjen n\u00eb gjuh\u00ebn shqipe nga Botimet Fran\u00e7eskane. Arsyet se pse vepra u shkrua mbetet mjaft interesante edhe sot, kur ende rrekemi t\u00eb gjejm\u00eb m\u00ebnyra p\u00ebr t\u00eb joshur t\u00eb rinjt\u00eb drejt dijes. Ishte viti 1788, kur abatit Thjulen i ishte besuar detyra p\u00ebr t\u00eb dh\u00ebn\u00eb m\u00ebsim shkrim e lexim n\u00eb shkollat fetare t\u00eb Bolonj\u00ebs. Me keqardhje, ai vuri re se nx\u00ebn\u00ebsit kishin njohuri t\u00eb pakta rreth gjeografis\u00eb dhe historis\u00eb.<\/p>\n

P\u00ebr t\u00eb ndryshuar k\u00ebt\u00eb gjendje, mendoi t\u2019u p\u00ebrgatiste atyre disa studime p\u00ebr m\u00ebkimin e njohurive n\u00eb k\u00ebto fusha, gj\u00eb q\u00eb u realizua me miratimin e epror\u00ebve t\u00eb tij dhe me p\u00eblqimin e t\u00eb rinjve. Duke marr\u00eb p\u00ebr baz\u00eb autor\u00ebt latin\u00eb, ai do t\u00eb krijonte nj\u00eb p\u00ebrmbledhje t\u00eb vog\u00ebl t\u00eb historis\u00eb antike dhe p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb, mendoi kthimin pas n\u00eb koh\u00eb, q\u00eb nga perandori Kostandini i Madh. Abati hartoi edhe nj\u00eb p\u00ebrmbledhje tjet\u00ebr me dy v\u00ebllime, ku shqyrtoheshin nj\u00eb s\u00ebr\u00eb t\u00eb dh\u00ebnash gjeografike. Kjo e fundit mbeti e pabotuar, pasi, sipas tij, zhvillimet politike do t\u00eb sillnin vjet\u00ebrimin e saj n\u00eb pak muaj. Nj\u00eb sh\u00ebnim hyr\u00ebs i botimit, v\u00ebren se megjith\u00ebse Italia ishte toka me m\u00eb shum\u00eb dijetar\u00eb dhe histori, ai vuri re se t\u00eb rinjt\u00eb italian\u00eb, n\u00eb ndryshim nga kombet e tjera, ishin gjithmon\u00eb e m\u00eb pak t\u00eb interesuar p\u00ebr historin\u00eb e vendit t\u00eb tyre. Sipas mendimit t\u00eb abatit, si autor tashm\u00eb, kjo vinte nga mungesa e tregimeve t\u00eb p\u00ebrmbledhura n\u00eb tekstet m\u00ebsimore p\u00ebr t\u00eb rinjt\u00eb. Sipas tij, n\u00ebse nj\u00eb f\u00ebmije t\u00eb mosh\u00ebs 12 \u2013 apo 14-vje\u00e7are do t\u2019i paraqitej nj\u00eb tekst voluminoz p\u00ebr historin\u00eb, mosinteresimi ndaj saj do t\u00eb ishte i pritsh\u00ebm. Ndaj ai mendoi p\u00ebr nj\u00eb metod\u00eb q\u00eb mund t\u00eb t\u00ebrhiqte t\u00eb rinjt\u00eb dhe n\u00eb fund, zgjodhi at\u00eb q\u00eb i paraqitet m\u00eb posht\u00eb lexuesit.<\/p>\n

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\u201cNj\u00eb nd\u00ebr arsyet kryesore t\u00eb k\u00ebsaj zgjedhjeje ishte shtjellimi i dialogut n\u00eb p\u00ebrpjes\u00ebtim me argumentin, duke sjell\u00eb k\u00ebshtu nj\u00eb lexim t\u00eb k\u00ebnaqsh\u00ebm. S\u00eb dyti, autori ishte i mendimit se historia e koh\u00ebve t\u00eb ndryshme kuptohet m\u00eb s\u00eb miri n\u00ebse shihet nga k\u00ebndv\u00ebshtrimi i jet\u00ebve t\u00eb ndritura t\u00eb figurave q\u00eb lul\u00ebzuan n\u00eb periudha t\u00eb ndryshme\u201d, thuhet n\u00eb tekstin shoq\u00ebrues t\u00eb botimit. Sipas tij, edhe vet\u00eb kritika, e cila shpesh \u00ebsht\u00eb e m\u00ebrzitshme, vjen natyrsh\u00ebm n\u00eb dialogun historik kur nj\u00eb bashk\u00ebbisedues i k\u00ebrkon tjetrit sqarime. \u201cKarakteri i njer\u00ebzve nxirret n\u00eb pah m\u00eb mir\u00eb, pasi n\u00eb mbret\u00ebrin\u00eb e t\u00eb vdekurve askush nuk ka droj\u00eb t\u00eb rr\u00ebfej\u00eb gabimet e tij. Ndryshimet n\u00eb mendime dhe mosdakord\u00ebsit\u00eb sipas ndodhive, sh\u00ebrbejn\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb kuptuar fen\u00eb dhe ndershm\u00ebrin\u00eb. Shpesh u lihet vend edhe rrur\u00ebzave,1 p\u00ebr ta b\u00ebr\u00eb leximin m\u00eb t\u00eb k\u00ebndsh\u00ebm. Vendosja e bisedave n\u00eb mbret\u00ebrin\u00eb e t\u00eb vdekurve nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb sajes\u00eb e re, pasi ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebrdorur nga shkrimtar\u00ebt e antikitetit dhe shkrimtar\u00ebt modern\u00eb, por nuk e dim\u00eb n\u00ebse ndonj\u00ebri prej tyre e ka p\u00ebrdorur k\u00ebt\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb paraqitur nj\u00eb histori t\u00eb rregullt\u201d, thuhet n\u00eb tekstin hyr\u00ebs. Kjo histori fillon me mbret\u00ebrimin e Karlit t\u00eb Madh dhe vjen deri n\u00eb dit\u00ebt e sotme.<\/p>\n

Sipas abatit, njohja m\u00eb e mir\u00eb e s\u00eb shkuar\u00ebs sjell zbardhjen e fakteve q\u00eb nuk jan\u00eb fort t\u00eb qarta n\u00ebse nuk njeh vendin. Ndokujt do t\u2019i dukej se bashk\u00ebbisedimi nuk do t\u00eb mund t\u00eb p\u00ebrshtatej mir\u00eb me historin\u00eb ose, s\u00eb paku, me nj\u00eb histori q\u00eb u prezantohet njer\u00ebzve t\u00eb qytet\u00ebruar. Por \u00e7\u2019mund t\u00eb jet\u00eb m\u00eb edukuese, e k\u00ebnaqshme dhe sublime sesa nj\u00eb dram\u00eb e bukur, e duke menduar se \u00e7far\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb thelb ajo, p\u00ebrve\u00e7 se nj\u00eb fakt historik i vendosur n\u00eb nj\u00eb bashk\u00ebbisedim.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

VEPRA E 1800-\u00ebs\/ Biseda e Sk\u00ebnderbeut me perandorin romak Karli i Madh.- Nga: Fatmira Nikolli. \u00a0 \u2013 Kuvendime n\u00eb mbret\u00ebrin\u00eb e t\u00eb vdekurve: bashk\u00ebbisedim midis Gjergj Kastriotit, mbret i Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb dhe i Epirit, dhe Karlit t\u00eb madh, perandor romak\u201d. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb e vepra e shkruar nga abati Lorenzo Ignacio Thjulen n\u00eb vitin 1816 dhe ribotuar […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":13361,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[27,10,35],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13360","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blogu-i-udhetarit","category-kultura","category-shoqerore"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/44187754_555006431611375_642057749160525824_n.jpg?fit=625%2C428&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5Z6wp-3tu","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":100145,"url":"https:\/\/www.shqiperia.com\/blog\/sekreti-i-erret-i-familjes-holandeze-zbulohet-pas-80-vitesh-piktura-e-grabitur-nga-nazistet-e-koleksionistit-hebre\/","url_meta":{"origin":13360,"position":0},"title":"Sekreti i err\u00ebt i familjes holandeze, zbulohet pas 80 vitesh piktura e grabitur nga nazist\u00ebt e koleksionistit hebre","author":"Kurt Farka","date":"May 12, 2026","format":false,"excerpt":"12 Maji 2026 Nj\u00eb piktur\u00eb e vjedhur nga nazist\u00ebt gjat\u00eb Luft\u00ebs s\u00eb Dyt\u00eb Bot\u00ebrore \u00ebsht\u00eb zbuluar n\u00eb sht\u00ebpin\u00eb e pasardh\u00ebsve t\u00eb nj\u00eb bashk\u00ebpun\u00ebtori t\u00eb njohur holandez t\u00eb regjimit nazist, duke rikthyer n\u00eb v\u00ebmendje plag\u00ebt e grabitjes s\u00eb veprave t\u00eb artit gjat\u00eb luft\u00ebs. 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