@Wrath0fKhan On ...
@Wrath0fKhan On your video: "We can never be friend with unbelievers" ,you asked me that "do i remember khidar's story" but it seems that you didn't had any guts to withstand the reply which was obviously coming.I can see that,besides bocking me,you also discarded the comment,in response to your rubbish,made by another person present there. I am almost sure that you have blocked him,too,since you can only respond with crap but become dumb whenever you encounter a rational argument.

MiddleEast ALWAYS ...
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Blah blah blah... ...
Blah blah blah... what is so ethical about "beat your wife?"

@ndyt Homeschool Vs ...
@ndyt Homeschool Vs School? Might as well say Dem Vs Rep.

Education: Curing ...
Education: Curing religion since the 1600s'.

Religion is dying. ...
Religion is dying. Every time you get a chance, kick a little dirt into it's grave. Thanks!

@ndyt What a fine ...
@ndyt What a fine statement, another example to back up your statement is to look at the Phelps family, they fence their young in and dont allow them to mix, at all... and what are the Phelps most famous for, i wonder! Peace.

@ndyt, I dislike it ...
@ndyt, I dislike it as much as you. There's a lot of real evidence to that effect in my comments prior to the last few months. I do sincerely believe that religion is the only known placebo that needs a lengthy warning label. But certainly, if we'd like to see it evaporate, we're more likely to see that happen the more slippery we can make the slope leading away from it. Finding paths that preserve any genuine utility, like community cohesiveness, and the integrity of practitioners seems okay.

@ananiasacts, you ...
@ananiasacts, you seem to have respect for religion, I don't. Oh, I respect its power the same way I would respect a dirty cop. He has power over me but he is evil and must be stopped.

@Medifro People ...
@Medifro People are getting slain for sorcery in Saudi Arabia. The Arab "Free Thinker Movement" practically operates "underground". Right! Its the intellectuals who bring progress, not the politicians. Those only can help to implement some conditions that will allow the "Thinkers" to flourish...

@Medifro There is ...
@Medifro There is nothing to understand "better". The rules are clear, simple and powerful. "Aqida" used to be rather "shallow" and closely intertwined with "Sharia". This changed with the course of time, hundreds and hundreds of years after the time of the Sahabah. As it developed into more elaborate forms (e.g. Kalam) and deviated from the original traditions, the call to return to those (traditions) became stronger. One could say in our times this call culminates in the Salafi movement.

@Wrath0fKhan No one ...
@Wrath0fKhan No one said anything about abandoning the Revelation and Ways of the Prophet, its about understanding them better, since Islam was back then about Aqida and Sharia. There IS a dissent (of which I dont care for personally), though its not underground. Newspapers are full of articles as well as TV interviews of people discussing secularism and other things. I don't see how its supposed to be official or not since its an intellectual, not a political movement.

@ndyt, I wish I'd ...
@ndyt, I wish I'd had room to qualify that with "in their chosen profession." I think we only disagree about how best to be rid of religion--as we know it. It seems to me that we should look for ways to make the transition as painless and thorough as we can. This approach seems to allow each sect to independently morph into its own most effective antidote. By teaching people the art of critical thinking by showing them how to use the scientific method to reveal the real utility of their faith.

@ananiasacts@ ...
@ananiasacts@ananiasacts, these religious workers would have to re-train for more productive lives, it is like the creative-destruction of capitalism. They would not be unemployable they could teach religion as literature. Computers put typists out of work, are you saying we should not have invented computers? Refrigerators put the lake-ice industry out of business, should we have not invented refrigerators? It could take place over a few years, but religion needs to go, the sooner the better

@ndyt, Yes, I'm a ...
@ndyt, Yes, I'm a big fan of Dennett, love the term "deepity," that he defines in that video, too. But I don't believe he would deny my claims; simply point out that it ultimately is equivalent to "being without it" because it genuinely does remove the very sanctity of religion. Or at least morphing that from a respect for a genuine creator, to respect for the power of that idea. Also, consider the economic impact of leaving every religious practitioner not just unemployed, but unemployable.

@ananiasacts, ...
@ananiasacts, Daniel Dennett has spent a great deal of effort studying religion scientifically. Have you read his books or watched his lectures? I agree with his conclusion: religion is mental virus, a parasite that we would be better off without. The Evolution of Confusion watch?v=D_9w8JougLQ

@Medifro ...
@Medifro Abandoning the "Revelation", the "Ways of the Prophet", hence some if not all of those self-justifying rules too, is supposed to bring insecurity. Therefore I see "their" position as justified. I know about some educated Saudi "underground dissent" but that certainly aint nothing official. As well, until now we havent spotted much "official" movement down there. In any case, I can only wish them good luck. If they want to catch the "21st century train", they have plenty of work to do.

@Medifro I dont ...
@Medifro I dont remember to call you any titles. Neither do I remember you calling yourself any tittles. I dont understand the term "Salaf" (e.g.) as past "scholars", but as the first three generations of Muslims. Ibn Taymiyyah was a 13/14th century scholar, hence certainly not a member of that group (by definition). As Ive already said, there are certain rules, which can be easily derived from the "Traditions", that are self-justifying and in principle non-negotiable.

@ndyt, But even if ...
@ndyt, But even if we assume that we do not live in any god's vivarium, the concept of "god" certainly does exist. Furthermore, if we agree there is no real god, then it must be the concept itself that we find so deeply inspiring, empowering, and soothing to posses. Which suggests to me that simply discarding it is not as wise an alternative as actually studying the meme scientifically to understand how it works, and maybe leaving us more able to use it productively. Making religion a science.

@Plissken07, We ...
@Plissken07, We have a single word for "is life, after life after death." It's reincarnation. Is it your position that Orthodox Christianity preaches reincarnation? Also, if the soul is never disembodied, that what exactly is returned via reincarnation? I found your comment very difficult to understand. But it sounded interesting. I hope you'll try to explain it to me.

@Wrath0fKhan I ...
@Wrath0fKhan I dont call myself titles.The way I look at "Salaf" (i.e past scholars ) is this: I study their interpretation, a logical step since I AM interested in their viewpoint (especially Ibn Taymeyyah, whom I consider a genius). Its the same as studying any subject, you see what the others did and thought, and come with conclusions.I dont take them as curved on stone. Today this is done by elders because of insecurity,but thats another topic. Most of educated Saudi youth are open minded.

It is not an ...
It is not an illiteracy in Islam that fuel extremism, it is a belief in something that does not exist is the fundamental problem with religion. People are more worried about HOW to translate a religious text instead of asking WHY do we still believe these bronze age dogma's? I do believe some people inherently need the guided direction that a religion can induce; but with education and critical thinking I hope we can help these people overcome this obstacle.

@Medifro Well, if ...
@Medifro Well, if "they" are becoming aware, then there is hope. However, Im on the side of the "Salaf", at least when it comes to the "true teachings", and, I dont see there much room for philosophical speculations. As you say, there are those rules, which I would call self-justifying rules and if you disagree, "you" are a bad Muslim. From a "true" (e.g. Salafi) Islamic perspective, I cant give "you" any advice how to "break" those (rules). You simply need a new open-minded generation...

@Wrath0fKhan You ...
@Wrath0fKhan You got it right. This is THE problem here in Saudi and all Arab countries. Islamic philosophy is extremely deep, but how can we understand it if the generations arent into philiosophy and aesthetics in first place? They're living with rules, they restrict themselves for it, THEN they force others to do the same and expect them to comply since this is Islam ( a set rules to be followed),disagree and ur a bad Muslim! Good thing ppl are becoming aware,at least Saudi youth.

@Medifro I did not ...
@Medifro I did not understand/perceive your response as "offensive" in any way. I asked you two related questions to clarify your position, so I could gain more understanding. As I understand it, "Aqida" can be considered a branch of studies, an attempted explanation/justification of a believe system and or faith - in this case the Islamic faith. Both, Aqida and Sharia, are practically two sides of "one coin". One teaches how Muslims know what is true, the other teaches how they should live.